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27 July 2008 @ 02:01 pm
Regarding our meets. Everyone who comes, please read.  
Let me preface this by saying we really like all you guys - we love all the new faces, we love having you over, we love the good attitudes and the fun and all the contributions you bring to our meets. We really, really appreciate each and every one of you coming. Last night was fantastic! Thank you for a good time.

Also, Flightline was wearing the best Lupine costume I've ever seen.



That said, I have some things I'd like to say that I'm sure Jenni, Jeff, Stealth and Frank would agree with me on. So let me get them out there.

If you come to our meets, I'd really appreciate it if you read this in its entirity.

We've been noticing there's a certain lack of respect for our house when people come over. Which is a real shame, because we generally spend all day the day before cleaning it up and getting it nice for people. Today, while cleaning, I've carried out so far three bags of trash left on the floors and furniture of the rooms that were open to the party, in addition to a whole bunch of plastic cups left on our front lawn. We know you're here to have a good time, but understand that we're essentially opening up our house for your use as a social club. I know that generally I wind up ducking out of the meets early to get back to my life but it's okay because we have the space to let you guys hang out and we love to do it. If you could do us all a favour and throw away your cups, that'd be awesome. Same goes with soda cans, empty food packages, etcetera.

These meets are not just something that we put our own effort into - they're a group effort. People bring fun games (thanks to everyone who brought video games last night) and good attitudes, drinks, food and good conversation. Clean-up is the same thing though. If you see someone else has left a cup on the floor, do us all a favour and pick it up and throw it out. We'll have more trash cans next time to facilitate that.

On to the more serious things. First, we open a lot of our house to you guys - even our private bedrooms. There's a certain degree of trust that we have in you to treat our personal property and living spaces with respect. This did not happen last night. People have spilled things in rooms and not cleaned them up, we had an incident in which one of our housemates was essentially told to 'go the fuck away' from the door to his room because other people were in there - that's not cool.

Probably the worst incident would be that someone threw up all over the floor of the upstairs bathroom. About three feet from the toilet. Then threw a few of our bath towels on it to clean it up. Not cool at all.

We want to keep having these meets and will continue to - and we're fine with cleaning a little, that happens. But please, please, please (please!) do your part to keep the place nice and cozy for us the next day.

TL;DR - Let's recap some rules:
  • If you spill something, clean it up. If you can't clean it up for some reason, at least tell someone about it before it becomes a stain.
  • Do not go into our rooms without permission.
  • Do not eat things from our fridge without asking us. We provide group food, the food items in our cupboards are our personal property.
  • Pick up your trash. Better yet, do not put it on the floor.
  • Please respect everyone who lives here and the neighbours, as well. No loud noises outside and do not trash the lawn.
  • If you get sick from drinking and throw up, don't attempt to hide it or clean it up with things you shouldn't be using to clean up. It's much, much better if you just tell us, because we kinda understand. Drinking can make you sick. Ruining our shit after the fact is not as cool.
  • In general, treat the place like it's your grandparents' house. Don't touch things you shouldn't and be careful not to break things.
I hope this hasn't come across as too harsh - really, I liked last night a lot and am glad we had the meet. I'm not mad at anyone, either. But I do have an issue with certain things that happened and I'd just like to get that out there so everyone can be a little more self-aware.

Thanks,

Kale. <3
 
 
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Cod Fish: I Want To Believe[info]baccala_30 on July 27th, 2008 08:43 pm (UTC)
Well stated, very clear. *hats off to the deer* :)
Squeetis[info]jpsqueetis on July 27th, 2008 11:52 pm (UTC)
I can't believe someone threw up on your bathroom floor without cleaning it up properly and that your housemate was told he couldn't go into his own room. Pretty fucked up if you ask me. Did these things happen after I left?

Edited at 2008-07-27 11:53 pm (UTC)
Sasha: con badge[info]sashatigress on July 28th, 2008 01:01 am (UTC)
I hope this hasn't come across as too harsh

Maybe, not harsh enough?
Jenni[info]jmlukens on July 28th, 2008 04:42 am (UTC)
I don't think it's harsh enough. =|
Tharg Bloodaxe[info]tharg_bloodaxe on July 28th, 2008 02:20 am (UTC)
What disturbed me the most is this point: They gotten people who normally come to these parties, as well as those who normally attend Lupine's meets that were redirected to come to this. Everyone should know the general means of respect they should have to property of another's belongings, as none of this wouldn't ever been seen nor tolerated at Lupine's.

On the lighter side, Stealth certainly gotten me with that surprise pic. I look dazed... har! Where's the pic where I returned the favor? ;)
Protocollie[info]protocollie on July 28th, 2008 01:13 pm (UTC)
what? what favor?
rattuskid: chat[info]rattuskid on July 28th, 2008 02:55 am (UTC)
The meet and the people who attended it were 90% awesome last night, and I say this as someone who had never gone to a meet at Jenny & Jeff's before. That other 10% though really was just too much. It's a shame too, since it takes so little to sour the mood of the whole thing.

Namely, the unauthorized use of a bedroom and the issues with noise outside were things I saw personally... most of this I'm just hearing about now or heard about Sunday morning though.

If I could suggest something; It can bring on some whining, but I understand Tigra has a strict no-hanky-panky rule at her meets to eliminate drama, and as a helpful referrence to point to when something in that vein goes awry. It might be useful if implimented at your place. Especially given size and room constraints.

Also, I think I left a black bag of toiletries in Frank's bathroom. Mind if I swing by sometime to pick it up?
Jenni[info]jmlukens on July 28th, 2008 04:46 am (UTC)
We're not that terribly opposed people "having fun" as long as they have the proper permissions. Someone was offered a certain room and then decided to use someone else's. That's the issue here.
Jenni: EffOff[info]jmlukens on July 28th, 2008 04:49 am (UTC)
Fuck am I pissed. I noticed my red towel has dried puke on it. My NICE RALPH LAUREN towel. *shakes and angry fist* I'm really. really. really. Not happy about that. Even if it was your towel or Stealth's, I'd still be fucking pissed. Even if it wasn't a designer towel, I'd be pissed. But fuck. I'm really pissed.

Anyway, house meeting tomorrow night when everyone is home. No exceptions, this shit needs to be dealt with.
lupine42[info]lupine_fox on July 28th, 2008 05:21 am (UTC)
First off- who stole my face and I want it back!!!!

Second - Here here! Whenever anyone it at someone else's house they need to be on their best behavior. The party atmosphere at your place is a bit wilder than an mine but that is not an excuse for people to not respect your place or your rules.

I enjoy coming to your place so I hope everyone gets the message and understands how much work it is to have a meet under the best circumstances and how much harder it is when people don't respect your house.

R E S P E C T
John Barrett (Roxikat)[info]roxikat on July 28th, 2008 05:50 am (UTC)
These kinds of things are common sense. I don't trust strangers enough to have open meets at my house and this kind of behavior from people only supports that distrust. I hope people are starting to pay for food and drinks now at least.
(Anonymous) on July 28th, 2008 02:02 pm (UTC)
Also, check for anything missing. Especially if anybody at the meet brings "friends" you don't know and/or mentions they're into anime fandom. Especially if both -- nobody knows who they are and they're otaku.

Back when Rick & Tess were in SoCal and holding their house parties there, they sometimes had problems with lightfingering -- stuff disappearing during a party. Usually a party that had crashers -- "Who is he? I thought he was with you!" Anime otaku down here had a special reputation for being thieves by nature.

They didn't have as much vandalism and general destruction as you report, probably because their parties were "dry". I suggest you do the same, as a lot of your problems seem to come from partygoers drinking their brains out. Their replacement furry party site in the area also had to go "dry" after some "incidents". Don't be surprised if your attendance drops considerably once you stop the alcohol; you're probably attracting a few who are there for the booze and the booze alone. ("Party! Free beer! Follow me!")
Protocollie[info]protocollie on July 28th, 2008 02:04 pm (UTC)
Nope.

We like our booze. We're not going to change how we run our party, we're just gonna get out the banhammer. The bottom line is the booze is not the problem, it's the people who abuse it.

They'll just be gone. End of story.

Also, even though I don't know anything about the anime kids, I'd say that's a pretty unfair and sweeping generalisation.

Edited at 2008-07-28 02:05 pm (UTC)
Tigra[info]lapistigra on July 28th, 2008 02:10 pm (UTC)
I'm glad you had an awesome party, but it's too bad you had to have that crappy otherside to throwing parties. You'd think people would have enough common sense/respect/appreciation for your efforts to give them a good time, to not need a huge list of rules that amount to: "Pick up after your damn self." Unfortunately, it seems that the general rule of parties is that someone, usually multiple people, will forget their brains. Some of the things I've done for parties so I don't have to feel like I'm the police are: locking the rooms I don't want people to go in, every few hours doing a trash run through the house since I've noticed people are less inclined to leave a really bad mess if it looks clean throughout, there have been times I've tied the fridge shut with a ribbon so people won't eat my groceries, and set up with a few people to let me know if something is going on that needs to be taken care of so I have eyes everywhere :)

I've been lucky overall. I think the damage that pissed me off the most was the one party where someone spilled coke on my leather couch and didn't tell anyone or clean it up. I found the sticky spot 2 days later and by then it had eaten away at the leather, after much work with expensive leather cleaners and restorers that spot on the couch is still stained and cracked. It was such a pretty thing too :(

I can't wait to come to one of your parties! ^.^
Protocollie[info]protocollie on July 28th, 2008 02:15 pm (UTC)
I can't wait for you to show up! You're great company, and tigra's presence means it's a serious shindig! <3